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Notes

BOOK I

1

Bendis, the Thracian Artemis.

2

Reading φυλάξασθαι καὶ λαθεῖν, οὗτος, κτλ.

BOOK II.

1

Reading Γύνῃ τῷ Κροίσου τοῦ Λυδοῦ προγόνῳ.

2

Seven against Thebes, 574.

3

Hesiod, Works and Days, 230.

4

Homer, Od. xix. 109.

5

Eumolpus.

6

Hesiod, Works and Days, 287.

7

Homer, Iliad, ix. 493.

8

Hesiod, Theogony, 154, 459.

9

Placing the comma after γραυσί, and not after γιγνομένοις.

10

Iliad, xxiv. 527.

11

Iliad, ii. 69.

12

Ib. xx.

13

Hom. Od. xvii. 485.

14

Omitting κατὰ φαντασίας.

15

From a lost play.

BOOK III.

1

Od. xi. 489.

2

Il. xx. 64.

3

Il. xxiii. 103.

4

Od. x. 495.

5

Il. xvi. 856.

6

Ib. xxiii. 100.

7

Od. xxiv. 6.

8

Il. xxiv. 10.

9

Ib. xviii. 23.

10

Ib. xxii. 414.

11

Il. xviii. 54.

12

Ib. xxii. 168.

13

Ib. xvi. 433.

14

Ib. i. 599.

15

Od. xvii. 383 sq.

16

Or, ‘if his words are accompanied by actions.’

17

Il. iv. 412.

18

Od. iii. 8.

19

Ib. iv. 431.

20

Ib. i. 225.

21

Ib. ix. 8.

22

Ib. xii. 342.

23

Il. xiv. 281.

24

Od. viii. 266.

25

Ib. xx. 17.

26

Quoted by Suidas as attributed to Hesiod.

27

Il. ix. 515.

28

Ib. xxiv. 175.

29

Cf. infra, x. 595.

30

Il. xxii. 15 sq.

31

Ib. xxi. 130, 223 sq.

32

Il. xxiii. 151.

33

Ib. xxii. 394.

34

Ib. xxiii. 175.

35

From the Niobe of Aeschylus.

36

i.e. the four notes of the tetrachord.

37

Socrates expresses himself carelessly in accordance with his assumed ignorance of the details of the subject. In the first part of the sentence he appears to be speaking of paeonic rhythms which are in the ratio of 32; in the second part, of dactylic and anapaestic rhythms, which are in the ratio of 11; in the last clause, of iambic and trochaic rhythms, which are in the ratio of 12 or 21.

38

Cp. supra, II. 368 D.

39

Making the answer of Socrates begin at καὶ γὰρ πρὸς κ.τ.λ.

40

Iliad iv. 218.

41

Cp. Laws, 663 E.

BOOK IV.

1

Or, ‘that for their own good you are making these people miserable.’

2

Od. i. 352.

3

Reading μὴ δεῖν ἀντιπράτειν, without a comma after δεῖν.

4

Od. xx. 17, quoted supra, III. 390 D.

5

Reading προστατήσετον with Bekker; or, if the reading προστήσετον, which is found in the MSS., be adopted, then the nominative must be supplied from the previous sentence: ‘Music and gymnastic will place in authority over …’ This is very awkward, and the awkwardness is increased by the necessity of changing the subject at τηρήσετον.

BOOK V.

1

Reading ἔτι ἐγὼ εἶπον.

2

Or inserting καὶ before νομίμων: ‘a deceiver about beauty or goodness or principles of justice or law.’

3

Reading ὥστε εὖ με παραμυθεῖ.

4

Reading with Paris A. καὶ καλοῦ …

5

Reading ἰατρὸν μὲν καὶ ἰατρικὸν τὴν ψυχὴν ὄντα.

6

Pages 419, 420 ff.

7

Iliad, vii. 321.

8

Iliad, viii. 161.

9

Probably Works and Days, 121 foll.

10

Reading στραγγευομένῳ.

BOOK VI.

1

Or, applying ὅπως δὲ κυβερνήσει to the mutineers, ‘But only understanding (ἐπαΐοντας) that he (the mutinous pilot) must rule in spite of other people, never considering that there is an art of command which may be practised in combination with the pilot’s art.’

2

Or, taking παρὰ in another sense, ‘trained to virtue on their principles.’

3

Putting a comma after τῶν ἀνανγκαίων.

4

Or, ‘will they not deserve to be called sophisms,’ ….

5

Heraclitus said that the sun was extinguished every evening and relighted every morning.

6

Reading κατηκόῳ or κατηκόοις.

7

Reading ἦ καὶ ἐὰν οὕτω θεῶνται without a question, and ἀλλοίαν τοι: or, retaining the question and taking ἀλλοίαν δόξαν in a new sense: ‘Do you mean to say really that, viewing him in this light, they will be of another mind from yours, and answer in another strain?’

8

Cp. IV. 435 D.

9

Or, separating καὶ μάλα from ἄξιον, ‘True, he said, and a noble thought’: or ἄξιον τὸ διανόημα may be a gloss.

10

Reading ἀνὴρ καλός: or reading ἀνὴρ καλῶς, ‘I quite well knew from the very first, that you, &c.’

11

A play upon τόκος, which means both ‘offspring’ and ‘interest.’

12

Reading διανοοῦ.

13

Reading: ἄνισα.

14

Reading ὧνπερ ἐκεῖνο εἰκόνων.

BOOK VII.

1

Reading παρόντα.

2

In allusion to a game in which two parties fled or pursued according as an oyster-shell which was thrown into the air fell with the dark or light side uppermost.

3

Reading οὖσαν ἐπάνοδον.

4

Meaning either (1) that they integrate the number because they deny the possibility of fractions; or (2) that division is regarded by them as a process of multiplication, for the fractions of one continue to be units.

5

Or, ‘close alongside of their neighbour’s instruments, as if to catch a sound from them.’

6

Omitting ἐνταῦθα δὲ πρὸς φαντάσματα. The word θεῖα is bracketed by Stallbaum.

7

A play upon the word νόμος, which means both ‘law’ and ‘strain.’

8

γραμμάς, literally ‘lines,’ probably the starting-point of a race-course.

BOOK VIII.

1

i.e. a cyclical number, such as 6, which is equal to the sum of its divisors 1, 2, 3, so that when the circle or time represented by 6 is completed, the lesser times or rotations represented by 1, 2, 3 are also completed.

2

Probably the numbers 3, 4, 5, 6 of which the three first = the sides of the Pythagorean triangle. The terms will then be 33, 43, 53, which together = 63 = 216.

3

Or the first a square which is 100 × 100 = 10,000. The whole number will then be 17,500 = a square of 100, and an oblong of 100 by 75.

4

Reading προμήκη δέ.

5

Or, ‘consisting of two numbers squared upon irrational diameters,’ &c. = 100. For other explanations of the passage see Introduction.

6

Cp. supra, 544 C.

7

Omitting ἤ τινος.

8

Reading καὶ ἐτίμα μάλιστα. Εὖ, ἦ δ’ ἐγώ, according to Schneider’s excellent emendation.

9

Omitting τί μήν; ἔφη.

10

Or, ‘the philosophical temper of the condemned.’

11

Herod. i. 55.

BOOK IX.

1

Or, ‘opinions or appetites such as are deemed to be good.’

2

Reading with Grasere and Hermann τί οἰώμεθα, and omitting οὐδὲν, which is not found in the best MSS.

3

729 nearly equals the number of days and nights in the year.

4

Or ‘take up his abode there.’

BOOK X.

1

Omitting εἰς.

2

Or, ‘with his nouns and verbs.’

3

Reading εἰδωλοποιοῦντα … ἀφεστῶτα.

4

Or, if we accept Madvig’s ingenious but unnecessary emendation ᾀσόμεθα, ‘At all events we will sing, that’ &c.

5

Reading ἀπελυσάμεθα.

6

Reading ἡμῶν.

7

Reading αὐτόχειρας.

8

Reading καὶ ὅτι.

9

Reading εἰκοστήν.

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