In support of the first opinion (that Pleasure is utterly not-good) it is urged that:
- Every Pleasure is a sensible process towards a complete state; but no such process is akin to the end to be attained: e.g. no process of building to the completed house.
- The man of Perfected Self-Mastery avoids Pleasures.
- The man of Practical Wisdom aims at avoiding Pain, not at attaining Pleasure.
- Pleasures are an impediment to thought, and the more so the more keenly they are felt. An obvious instance will readily occur.
- Pleasure cannot be referred to any Art: and yet every good is the result of some Art.
- Children and brutes pursue Pleasures.
In support of the second (that not all Pleasures are good), That there are some base and matter of reproach, and some even hurtful: because some things that